Olive-winged Bulbul juvenile?

One of several very similar Bulbuls, this has a dull reddish-brown eye with no outer ring so rules out Red-eyed and Spectacled. No sign of Olive on wings so only leaves Buff-vented and Ochraceous but the former has white eyes and the latter has a white throat. Juvenile Olive-winged does have a greyish head and shows little or no olive on wings so perhaps this is what these are