geometrid moth

That's why I"m still uncertain. I'll keep an open mind though

I see what you're seeing..... I do know that from your first link I id'd a different moth I'd been working on! There's something about some of those pictures that isn't quite right, although the one from washington st does look somewhat closer than the ones from California. I'm still looking but leaning towards tetracis

so many moths! Now I'm torn between Tetracis jubararia and the one I found. It was quite bright in color

I could not find a snout moth that fit, but the hemlock looper does

I will give that a try when I get home tonight, thanks!